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14th-Aug-2007 09:07 am
Well, drat. Seems HBO has decided to be lame and cancel JFC, leaving umpteen questions unanswered. Having just watched the entire series of Carnivàle, another HBO supernatural noir that ended with zero resolution, I'm not terribly surprised, but I'm still disappointed.

So! What do we think happened, eh? Kai is the actual Christ figure, given the series' final words? John was trying to point her out to Cass? Or Kai is a Mary figure, either literally or figuratively mothering the actual Christ figure?

What would've happened on 9/11/14? Is that when the aliens come?

Why does Mitch levitate?

Was the car dealer really John's dad?

Other thoughts?

ETA: I want to point out that despite my allusions to Christian mythology, I'm not trying to "sell" Christianity. I'm a lapsed Lutheran turned agnostic who sees validity in all spiritual paths, but sometimes I know that it's easier for me to shortcut things to that which I have more experience with. I think if anything, this show really turns traditional religious ethos on its head, which is why I love it.
10: *pout*
14th-Aug-2007 03:00 pm (UTC)
I think Mitch levitates because he was the one most in need of a direct confrontation.

Excellent point! That kind of goes along with how the first time it happened, he immediately assumed "brain tumor" (a far more logical/analytical response) rather than "miracle." Despite all his supposed spirituality, Mitch was perhaps the least spiritual character of all.

What I am interested in is what the connotation of "father" is for John, what does that word mean to him. Somehow I don't think it is father as we human see it.

Wasn't there one point where John said "our father" to Butchie? Somewhere I read the theory that this meant Mitch was secretly John's father somehow, but I don't think so. I think maybe John thinks of the term "father" not as a biological construct but instead an emotional connection of mentor to student? Maybe the car salesman was the "original" John?

Cass and Kai were the only two to directly see whatever it is that John showed them

Ah, true! And it's also interesting to note the ways in which their reactions to this were similar and different. Cass seemed to have a much more difficult time with it but ultimately accepted it, whereas Kai had some difficulty off and on but really took many more things in stride. Perhaps these two women -- who both had kind of serene natures to begin with, I thought -- represent two halves of the same coin somehow. Cass began as a much more opportunistic, city/business influenced person and ultimately became a force for artistic integrity and spirituality, whereas Kai was always a force of artistic/athletic integrity and spirituality, she just became more so.
14th-Aug-2007 03:51 pm (UTC)
Despite all his supposed spirituality, Mitch was perhaps the least spiritual character of all.

Yea, I found it interesting that Mitch was so non-spiritual, given his lifestyle. I said it in a reply to an earlier post that I think Mitch uses pseudo-spirituality as an escape, a means of hiding from the responsibilities of "real life". We saw this in his immediate response to Shaun's miracle: he took off. As such, I think his previous spiritual quests have not been truly genuine, more of a running away than a real search for truth.

I am certain that John does not view the term father in the biological sense, though there may be a progenitor-offspring aspect to it. It is interesting that he has no contact with his father's father, that he only knows his ancestry through his immediate ascendant. What is the significance of this? Is it meant to imply a teacher-student relationship, wherein we can only learn from those who directly impart knowledge to us, jsut as they learned from those who taught them? I'm sure there are several implications that we can derive from this, it bears more thought and reflection.

represent two halves of the same coin somehow
That was my thought as well. They were the first ones to see that John was more than just a weird autistic guy. Both seemed to recognize right away that there was something special and important about him, even if they weren't sure what it meant. I find it interesting that Cass, who initially seemed an unlikely candidate for spiritual awakening accepted her role much more readily than did Kai, who seemed to agonize over it. On the other hand, Cass didn't have to deal with Cissy everyday. :)
14th-Aug-2007 03:58 pm (UTC)
Kai, who seemed to agonize over it

Ah, but Cass agonized, too, just over slightly different things. Kai agonized over her role and purpose, whereas Cass agonized over what significance John was trying to put on her role and purpose.
14th-Aug-2007 04:25 pm (UTC)
That's true. They both had their own processes for coming to terms with their roles.

Kai didn't seem to agonize over her role so much as her ability to do it. It would appear she'd been the family's guardian for a long time, being a friend to Shaun, an assistant to Cissy, and looking after those things of Butchie's that she knew he'd need back one day Looking after the lost Yosts had begun to take it's toll. During her crises of faith where she almost gave up, I think it had more to do with her questioning her own strength than no knowing her place in things.
14th-Aug-2007 05:12 pm (UTC)
I think it had more to do with her questioning her own strength than no knowing her place in things.

Ah, excellent point, especially given how in the last few episodes, she was getting so angry with Cissy that it was affecting her ability to perform her role without letting that anger get in the way.
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